[96_concept_GL]

I may be in the market for one as long as it'll be cheaper than buying a newer car. She's gonna bite the dust one day, they all do. I am really attached to this car in an odd kinda way though and will keep her alive as long as possible. But who knows, I may find myself in a focus before the year is up anyway.

[Fern]

Well big torque engines may not be whats needed to win races but they're certainly great for entertainment. :burnout Jack Sears won the 1963 British Saloon Car Championship with a 427 Galaxie but lost out to Jim Clark next year who drove a tiny Lotus-Ford Cortina that made only about a 1/5 or 1/4 of the power of that big Galaxie.

Anyway, how accessible do you think these engines will be to a regular amateur enthusiast with a decent job who wants to use it in a track-day car? I guess I can assume they will cost much more than one of those new Ford 5.0L "Cammer" crate engines but are these engines going to accessable to anybody but the super rich-guy or semi/professional race teams?

[JiggaJerry]

I highly doubt it...

if so it would've been done before I believe

but damn 13,000RPM revs :woot

[Terry Haines]

....smaller cylinders and more of them ALWAYS make more HP than a few 'BIG BORES'...think about it....the gas burns at the same speed ...big or small bore...it takes LONGER for a 'BIG BORE' engine to burn the gas in the cylinder Vs a small cylinder....flame has further to travel in a BIG Vs small bore from the spark plug to the cylinder wall....the shorter the distance the quicker it burns....basic stuff to me! :wink...as an 'edit'...most of these engines run with a very high theoretical CR...BUT with long duration cams this is lower for the effective CR....same with any 'hot cam'...it lowers the CR of the engine.... :wink

[Terry Haines]

.....the F1 Honda in the 70's had cylinders the size of golf balls...it ran like a raped ape and scared the s**t out of other builders!!!!

[96_concept_GL]

A nice lotus elise sound would be fine too. I love those things.

[Shnuffy]

Did i hear someone say Group Buy??

[96_concept_GL]

LOL! Maybe if one of us has a HUGE trust fund, and wants to contribute for the rest of us. I want one real bad, but I work as a manager at Burger King til I graduate this coming winter. That equals about the cost of the motor as my anual salary.

[ContourPower]

Terry Haines, on Jan 30 2004, 07:20 AM, said:

...Hp per litre & power to weight ratio wins races![/b]

Finally someone said it. Tell this to all the mullett wearing, offroad driving hick teachers at my school. To them nascar is GOD...and whatever Dale Earnhart endores, it must be gold.

-Tim B)

[Russell]

Terry Haines, on Jan 30 2004, 07:20 AM, said:

..,'torque wins races'...nope...if that were the case NASCAR engines would be in F1.....HP per litre & power to weight ratio wins races! [/b]

torque wins 1/4 mile drag races :)

sadly that is what matters to most of us americans!

id rather have a high rpm screamer and take it on a nice road course :)

[Terry Haines]

....i'm sorry but the 2 valve set up came to the end of its life 20-30 years ago.I understand your support for the 'ol gal but you need to move on to the new ideas and output etc of multi valves.

[mikeyboy]

whats the HP at what redline?

[Terry Haines]

....a 2 valve hemi is not new,more of a revised antique...Jag was hemi in the '40's....just an old idea brought back to help bad sales.....